My Testimony, December 2011 -

Piątek 13 Sty 2012, 3:54

Chris Gipson DOCUMENT 1 - https://www.facebook.com/cgip81/posts/219327328151240 //Being Open on Facebook- DOUBLE DOSE

DISCUSSION between a Agnostic : Geo and an Agnostic who just recently became an Atheist (Me: Chris Gipson )https://www.facebook.com/cgip81--

"True but there's so much more we still can't explain. Why not attribute it to a god?"

Geo:
Tuesday
Geo:

Part of why science is so cool is because every time we learn something, we break something. We all understand gravity and relativity and newtonian physics. The problem is that they're wrong. Newtonian physics (energy = mass x velocity) and relativity break down when things are very large (stars and black holes) and very small things (atomic level). There you need quantum physics. But quantum physics doesn't work for normal things like apples and cheeseburgers. The more we learn, the more we realize we don't know. We don't know how tachyons work. We don't know how quantum tunneling works. We don't know how the universe began.
Take gravity. We understand force at a distance- magnets push and pull, right? We don't know HOW they do it, but they do. Gravity seems to be a one-way foce. Nothing is ever pushed away by gravity.
If we look at things from a newtonian standpoint, the physics of the big bang can't happen. For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction, right? What was the opposite and equal reaction to the creation of the whole universe? We have no idea. Newton would require that something set things in motion- so what was it? Quantum physics allows things to happen without a reason but we have NO idea why. Why not attirbute those things to a supreme being?
There are things like that in physics, biology, chemistry… stuff that happens and we can state "If X then Y" but we can't say WHY it happens. Look at protein folding and genetic drift, for instance. Add to that the existence of things we know SHOULD be there (we see results that indicate something- dark matter, quarks, etc) but can't actually verify them. What if quarks are god?
I take issue with people trying to humanize god- making the supreme being a bearded human man makes him easy to understand but limits everything. Why can't god be in the spin on a quark or be the reason gravity and magnets work? Why does god need to be an intelligent superbeing? You have to define what a god is before you can decide if one exists.

Chris Gipson
Tuesday
Chris Gipson

Thank you! At the moment, I am eating lunch and getting ready for work. Those are very good thoughts, and I appreciate it.

I only said I am eating lunch and getting ready for work, just in case you were expecting a more-indepth response right away. I don't you probably don't care otherwise, hehe.

Geo:
Tuesday
Geo:

lol

Chris Gipson
Wednesday
Chris Gipson

Man, that Rick guy drives me Nuts!

Chris Gipson
21 hours ago
Chris Gipson

Never know, maybe by the year 2900 Science will be able to answer those questions and God in the Flesh never will show his face.

I will go for the former.

Chris Gipson
21 hours ago
Chris Gipson

No Miracles. Now let us just both agree on one God, unless you can think of a more reasonable one? Quit focusing on other Gods, and stick to one and either believe in it or not. Why not just say, "I believe there may be any God, but there is definitely only ONE (Or many?) OR You can say there is no way there is a God, and look at Creation. Think about what we are told in the Bible…and look at how you truly believe in a God who created Man. If you want to look at another Religion on this subject, then, I guess, bring it up, but I have to admit to you now, I do not know that much, except for maybe Mormonism. Now really what Religion are we Going to Choose?? Who cares. They are ALL written by Ancient Man! …Are you saying there has to be a Creator for the World, and the Dinosaurs, then Man. Or what, Why not just say Yes, I do believe in God, OR No, I don't…one way or the other…I feel more free to say, I am not going to Pray to a Creator, who may be judging my every action, but most of all, BELIEF! Other documents that sound better than the 10 Commandments. OR possibly did God Never have a TEXT to begin with?? Who is to say?? Are we ever going to find out?? Probably not! If he has not shown himself, whoever the Hell he is, to us since these Ancient Texts were written, then When?? On Judgement Day?? …Man in his Image…and Animal and Dinosaurs and to a much larger scale, that most likely will kill you, especially since at night is when Predators attack! Why did Prehistoric Man Not have flash-lights to Get around in the Dark?? Do you not think this God would have assisted them in ANYWAY Possible?? Nope, what sometime in the 1800s by Thomas Edison created the light bulb for inner light…if the ancient people of all civilizations had light at any time, then they would have shared that with us, in some sort of Ancient Text, correct?? and yeah, these are my own thoughts, I did not even share my Let there be Light question to People yet…People ask, well, how did the animals on Noah's Ark get around on the Ark in Pitch (No light, I am guessing), that 'um true story' got around to what, a few different 'Truth Book,/Religious' Books, Right? Well, it was a make-believe story that went around to all-civilizations, faster then LIGHT! .

Chris Gipson
21 hours ago
Chris Gipson

Why not look into Astro-Theolgy ?? Makes more sense at least, not saying that I am a Astro Theologist, or whatever….hey, I appreciate your comments, Man…PLEASE Continue, and back me up every now and then, like you do. Thanks for Reading my long PMS!!

Chris Gipson
20 hours ago
Chris Gipson

If for now, God & Satan remain hidden from our viewpoint, then, why fear them, why not fear what we have learned through science. If they have not shown themselves yet, then well, the proof is in the pudding, or whatever analogy modern man can come up with. Does God make snow come down from the sky? No. Lightning? No. When we talk with a Christian and ask them about lightning are they so deluded that they 'Think' any God is doing it Today?? Hope Not. If so, hopefully it is older people then children, BECAUSE if it is the older generation, and we are sorry to see our loved ones go, then they won't have much time left in our future generations. Children, well that is more likely to Hurt the future of Man-Kind.

Chris Gipson
11 hours ago
Chris Gipson

Thoughts (when you get time) ?

Chris Gipson
11 hours ago
Chris Gipson

Why not just say these Ancient Gods and their Text-Books on Truth were just fictional and not written in Non-Fiction…Did they even grasp the idea of what Non-Fiction and Truth really is, OR is it all just a Bunch of Made-up stories shared together with Primitive Man to pass the time, shoot the shit, cos they were so fucking bored without any other source of entertainment, so they thrived on making up make-believe. Why not say they took the word, 'TRUTH' too lightly??

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