Left-libertarians

Aktywne dyskusje

Harliquensfly skomentował w "How liberal and left the world really is" Wrzesień 2011

Harliquensfly skomentował w "Left-libertarianism: A positive and optimistic philosophy?" (1)   Wrzesień 2011

Harliquensfly skomentował w "Patriotism and libertarianism are incompatible surely?" (12)   Wrzesień 2011

Harliquensfly skomentował w "Brainpolice's critique of the ALL" (16)   Wrzesień 2011

Fr0mN0where skomentował w "Left-libertarian isn’t that a contradiction in terms?" (5)   Sierpień 2011

• Harliquensfly

  Promisedeyes just because someone hasn't responded to your shout doesn't mean you're ignored. The reason why I put The Ramones in the connected artists is that a lot of left-libertarians I know like their music and a lot of libertarians agree with their views. I personally don't like their music or their views, but I'm not trying to create a group based off of my own opinions.

  Kwiecień 2012

• promisedeyes

  {not a left-libertarian myself, but hey that doesn't mean I you should just ignore my point}

  Kwiecień 2012

• promisedeyes

  Some of these connections do not make sense. Look at the Ramones in particular. Joey Ramone, I think, would best be described as a left-leaning centrist / liberal moderate type. That's why he campaigned for California governor Jerry Brown. How is he a "left-libertarian" that opposes electoral politics? And Johnny Ramone was a pro-Bush right-wing conservative.

  Kwiecień 2012

• Harliquensfly

  While I can't speak for all the members, personally it just seems like one mans attempt to create a sci fi utopia and is foolish. If history has taught us one thing it's that individuals will not want to blindly engage in a system that alienates them from their creativity. The resource based economy is silly also, because it forgets that money is just symbolic resources. But that's just my opinion.

  Marzec 2012

• Voloscire

  What do you guys think of "The Venus Project"? http://www.thevenusproject.com/

  Marzec 2012

• Harliquensfly

  Hay, I hope everyone's doing well. Remember any academic journal entry's, essays or book links you post I'll put in the group information.

  Luty 2012

• D1V1DEBYZER0

  Greetings!

  Luty 2012

• anarchofront

  Hello, ALL!

  Luty 2012

• soddex

  It's in my heart :D

  Grudzień 2011

• Harliquensfly

  Soddex this group is for any individual that supports liberty and identifies with the political left. The way you define a left-libertarian society is up to you.

  Grudzień 2011

• soddex

  I'm an Anarcho-Pacifist, does this group value my ideals as well?

  Grudzień 2011

• Fr0mN0where

  @ZackP1992 - "in an advanced society government ought to use its power of raising funds by taxation to provide a number of services which for various reasons cannot be provided, or cannot be provided adequately, by the market." Law, legislation and liberty: Friedrich August Hayek

  Listopad 2011

• ZackP1992

  That argument only holds true if one assumes natural rights and a Rothbardian analysis of the state. I'm a Hayekian and I couldn't disagree with your claims more.

  Listopad 2011

• Harliquensfly

  The answer is they can't really :)

  Listopad 2011

• Fr0mN0where

  Always found the minarchist argument the most odd of all. I can understand Adam Smith's argument that in existing societies the state might have a positive role to play providing "public works and Institutions" that might not reasonably be expected to return a profit, in most existing societies for example providing education may help the individual achieve their potential and escape the circumstances into which they were born. I can also see the argument for the state in existing societies having a role a negative but arguably necessary role to play in exercising force of control, over the individual, to protect property. The libertarian argument is surely that humans can live in a way that neither of these roles are necessary and we can free ourselves from the need of a state. How can anyone call themselves a libertarian then say that they want to keep the state for the sole purpose of keeping the individual under control by threat and use of force?

  Listopad 2011

• Harliquensfly

  Basically anarchy is order and any state (even minarchy) is disorder, violent and doomed to fail as it is totally unnatural.

  Listopad 2011

• Harliquensfly

  Phlunked revolutionary methodology generally uses coercion and totalitarian methods yes, but that is a generalisation and not all left-libertarians believe in revolution. I myself believe in evolutionary and gradualist methods as a way of achieving anarchy. Agorist counter economics and use of unregulated markets and temporary autonomous zones are all effective methods of separating from the state that are alternative to revolution. All that being said non-violent revolutionary methods worked in India without the use of coercion. Left-libertarians do not want "chaos" and straw man arguments like that do not stand in scholarly conversation. Anarchy is in fact the opposite of chaos because in anarchy society is able to behave naturally as a self-determining organism. In a statist society (even minarchist), society is inevitably manipulated into behaving counter to the way it does naturally. This is because the states existence inevitably creates a culture of fear and mistrust.

  Listopad 2011

• Harliquensfly

  Hay hope everyone is doing good :)

  Październik 2011

• Harliquensfly

  It's that kind of fear fuelled political opinion that caused hitlers rise to power and subsequently the holocaust. Israel have become a authoritarian right wing state that is extremely reminiscent of nazi german ie israels treatment of the palestinians is the same as the nazis treatment of the jews.

  Październik 2011

• Israeli_Knight

  I hate the left side in my country, those left liberals will bring on us the next holocaust.

  Październik 2011