Do cheated scrobbles count?

- lyle_catcliffe pisze...
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- 20 II 2012, 10:32
Do cheated scrobbles count?

With an account such as this one http://www.last.fm/user/fuckingout where someone has amassed 21,000 plays of one artist in less than a month and any given view of their page shows 20x plays of the same track in less than 4 minutes, do these 'scrobbles' count toward the charts? I'm assuming not, but how are they discarded? What's the process?

Sometimes I'll legitimately play a new song 10 or so times a day, I wonder where the line is drawn.

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[quote][b][user]lyle_catcliffe[/user][/b] pisze: With an account such as this one http://www.last.fm/user/fuckingout where someone has amassed 21,000 plays of one artist in less than a month and any given view of their page shows 20x plays of the same track in less than 4 minutes, do these 'scrobbles' count toward the charts? I'm assuming not, but how are they discarded? What's the process? Sometimes I'll legitimately play a new song 10 or so times a day, I wonder where the line is drawn.[/quote]

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- [Usunięty użytkownik] pisze...
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- 20 II 2012, 11:07
There's probably a limit of 'impossible' scrobbles per day beyond which they are discarded, i.e. 30 seconds at 60 sec/min * 60 min/h * 24 h/day = 2880 scrobbles per day.
Also there's probably a hardcoded limit of 1,000,000 scrobbles ever per user.
And by the way, it is said that lastfm doesn't like you mentioning user names like that...

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] pisze: There's probably a limit of 'impossible' scrobbles per day beyond which they are discarded, i.e. 30 seconds at 60 sec/min * 60 min/h * 24 h/day = 2880 scrobbles per day. Also there's probably a hardcoded limit of 1,000,000 scrobbles ever per user. And by the way, it is said that lastfm doesn't like you mentioning user names like that...[/quote]

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- lyle_catcliffe pisze...
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- 20 II 2012, 11:31
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- DFA1979 pisze...
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- 20 II 2012, 11:38
Charts on artist pages are based on the number of listeners, not the number of plays. So even a user submitting the same track every 30 seconds would only count as '1'.

It's possible that they also have some 'anti-spam' measures which ignore those users, but even if they are counted they don't make a whole lot of difference.

[quote][b][user]DFA1979[/user][/b] pisze: Charts on artist pages are based on the number of listeners, not the number of plays. So even a user submitting the same track every 30 seconds would only count as '1'. It's possible that they also have some 'anti-spam' measures which ignore those users, but even if they are counted they don't make a whole lot of difference.[/quote]

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- lyle_catcliffe pisze...
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- 20 II 2012, 11:56
Oh, so the weekly top tracks chart is made up of unique listeners rather than individual scrobbles?

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[quote][b][user]lyle_catcliffe[/user][/b] pisze: Oh, so the weekly top tracks chart is made up of unique listeners rather than individual scrobbles?[/quote]

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- lyle_catcliffe pisze...
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- 20 II 2012, 12:02
If so, I was hoping there would be programming in place to approximate this. Somedays I will genuinely play a track up to 8 times across 24 hours and always assumed this would count toward weekly plays on artist's charts (and cheated scrobbles aforementioned would be recognised and counted only on that user's page).

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[quote][b][user]lyle_catcliffe[/user][/b] pisze: If so, I was hoping there would be programming in place to approximate this. Somedays I will genuinely play a track up to 8 times across 24 hours and always assumed this would count toward weekly plays on artist's charts (and cheated scrobbles aforementioned would be recognised and counted only on that user's page).[/quote]

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- bengt_bangt pisze...
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- 20 II 2012, 12:28
lyle_catcliffe said:
Oh, so the weekly top tracks chart is made up of unique listeners rather than individual scrobbles?afaik all charts on Last.fm (apart from your personal ones on your profile) are made up of listeners, not scrobbles.

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[quote][b][user]bengt_bangt[/user][/b] pisze: [quote][b][user]lyle_catcliffe[/user][/b] said: Oh, so the weekly top tracks chart is made up of unique listeners rather than individual scrobbles?[/quote]afaik [i]all[/i] charts on Last.fm (apart from your personal ones on your profile) are made up of listeners, not scrobbles.[/quote]

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- snyde1 pisze...
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- 20 II 2012, 12:57
Well, there are exceptions to that. I'm not sure if there are spam filters on those or not.

This might help explain, though it's about another topic.

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[quote][b][user]snyde1[/user][/b] pisze: Well, there are [url=http://www.last.fm/music/+hype]exceptions[/url] to that. I'm not sure if there are spam filters on those or not. [url=http://www.last.fm/forum/21713/_/670942/_/16113654]This[/url] might help explain, though it's about another topic.[/quote]

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- Bloopy pisze...
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- 21 II 2012, 0:03
TianaBullen said:
There's probably a limit of 'impossible' scrobbles per day beyond which they are discarded, i.e. 30 seconds at 60 sec/min * 60 min/h * 24 h/day = 2880 scrobbles per day.I'm not sure if such a limit is actually in place. From what I've seen, bugs, glitches or installing multiple plugins can cause multiple scrobbles of the same track to appear with identical timestamps. I guess someone could try scrobbling a 31s track from multiple computers at once and see what happens.

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[quote][b][user]Bloopy[/user][/b] pisze: [quote][b][user]TianaBullen[/user][/b] said: There's probably a limit of 'impossible' scrobbles per day beyond which they are discarded, i.e. 30 seconds at 60 sec/min * 60 min/h * 24 h/day = 2880 scrobbles per day.[/quote]I'm not sure if such a limit is actually in place. From what I've seen, bugs, glitches or installing multiple plugins can cause multiple scrobbles of the same track to appear with identical timestamps. I guess someone could try scrobbling a 31s track from multiple computers at once and see what happens.[/quote]

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